Follow-up: Netbeans as a J2EE teaching IDE
My recent post on using Netbeans as a J2EE teaching IDE is having an unexpected success among the people behind Netbeans and Sun Application Server! I have received a very nice email from Ludovic Champenois, who is working at Sun in the Netbeans J2EE team. He pointed me out a few blogs that mention my post:
- http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/theaquarium
- http://cld.blog-city.com/eclipse_developers_relate_why_they_chose_netbeans.htm
- http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/basler
For those who may ask what the school I am teaching in is, it is a french engineering school. I am doing my PhD here (and at the UNSW CSE in Sydney as well) on web services stuff. You might see on my research webpage if you want to know more 
Quite frankly, the competition between the 2 big players (Eclipse and Netbeans) is fruitful. This is the best thing that can happen to Java developers. Each IDE has its pros and cons, but they are getting closer and closer functionnality wise. As I said, opting for one or the other is getting more a matter of taste depending on the task that you have to do. For the moment, I think that Netbeans is strong on J2EE and Swing development (with Matisse, did you see the Apple XCode inspiration?). Eclipse is not as good if you develop a Swing project, and the J2EE stuff in WTP is as good as in Netbeans, but much less straightforward. Eclipse is also more versatile, but all of this genericity comes at the price of more customization before you can actually work. This is were Netbeans clearly shines when it comes to doing J2EE development.
One suggestion to the Eclipse release managers: prepare a bundle of Eclipse + WTP + Apache Geronimo that works out of the box. Oh and make WTP 1.0 available to poor Mac users like me as well... One last word to the Netbeans team: well done and keep up the good work, you've managed to change my mind on your IDE so much that I do enjoy using it for J2EE 
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January 6th, 2006 - 09:22
It’s funny how everybody forgets Oracle’s IDE when it comes to talk about J2EE development (well, everybody also seems to forget Oracle’s J2EE server also, but that’s another story).
JDeveloper is a very good IDE and it is bundled with an OC4J server. WebApp deployment, debugging, etc… are very easy. The rest of the IDE is not bad at all either. And now, it’s free…
Since you already use Oracle databases, I really think that you ought to try it. I do prefer NetBeans in a lot of ways (Swing dev. really sucks) , but JDeveloper deserves a little more consideration, IMHO.
January 10th, 2006 - 10:27
Don’t now that Netbeans do all the thing we need out of box, i’m using Eclipse + wtp + tomcat + mysql + …, it is well integrated but i’ve done my setup by myself.
And what about the step by step training possibilities in eclipse for course ?
Zz’z are lucky …
January 10th, 2006 - 11:07
Hi Fred!
What do you mean by "step by step training possibilities in eclipse"?